From the Outside In: International Impressions of Finger Lakes Wines
While I’m only nearing my two-year anniversary as a New Yorker, I feel a strong sense of local pride (perhaps it stems from my upbringing as a proud Texan). I support my local farmers markets, have helped out with harvest on Long Island, and have driven my fair share of miles on the Seneca Wine Trail. I have introduced my parents to New York riesling (proving two things: that riesling isn’t always sweet, and that New York makes good wine) and have a stash of age-worthy 2009 riesling hidden away for future enjoyment.
But what do non-American, non-local, non-inherently-prideful, somewhat-skeptical folks think about Finger Lakes wines?
I recently led a group of eight wine writers from Spain, France and Chile in an exploration of the Finger Lakes. Most of the journalists had never heard of the region previously. All write for traditional print publications, although some also write for blogs and other digital formats. All are seasoned tasters, many judge wine competitions, and all have worked in the industry for at least several years.
We piled into a 12-passenger van (I drove) and off we went, with Watkins Glenn as home base. We spent one day on Seneca Lake and another on Keuka Lake. We drank only Finger Lakes wines (and one local beer) during the visit.
The following is, by no means, an empirical analysis, neither in sample size nor in the comprehensiveness of our visit. However, I believe it is substantive enough of an experience to draw some interesting observations, and perhaps even conclusions.
We visited five wineries, and drank wines during lunch and dinner from another 12, totaling 17 wineries in all.
One French journalist observed the remarkable the quality gap between wineries, with the top ones being solid wines capable of international recognition, while others were still struggling, particularly in the red wines.
Others remarked at the price differential in wines. One winery, Red Newt Cellars, charged $48 for one of their top reds — a 2010 Glacier Ridge Cabernet Franc capable of aging very well (not unlike a Bourgueil, with herbal and green pepper notes in its youth), while another winery, Hunt Country Vineyards, offered all its wines for under $25 (with the exception of one library wine, a 2006 Vidal Blanc ice wine). The quality-to-value ratio was deemed more worthy at Hunt Country, even though the absolute quality of the first wine was better.
The sweet wine phenomenon, while discussed in depth prior to the visit, was still a shock — particularly when many, if not most, of the wineries cited the non-vinifera wines as their top sellers. Niagara and Concord varieties were deemed “sugared grape juice” or “like a candy.” However, there were a couple native and hybrid grape varieties that pleasantly surprised, including Hunt Country Cayuga White, with only a kiss of residual sugar at 2.5%, made in a drier style.
The grossly-generalized American proclivity for sweetness even carried over into vinifera wines. Several wines labeled “Dry Riesling,” like the 2011 Hermann Wiemer Dry Riesling, had a residual sugar of 0.9% and were deemed “not dry enough.” However, one of the demi-sec gewürztraminers, Eremita’s Semi-Dry Gewürztraminer (no vintage on label), was well-liked for the balance between acidity and sugars. It stood out particularly because it was bright and fruit-forward without an overbearing bitterness on the back palate described as “unattractive” to the European palate — something we found a lot of in the Finger Lakes gewürztraminers.
None of the journalists could palate any of the Finger Lake pinot noirs. Even Heart & Hands, ordered at dinner, was poured into the dump bucket by the glassful (locals cringed). I guess when Burgundy is the point of reference, it’s easy to see why the wines fall short. It’s important to note that none were familiar with Oregon pinot noirs.
I didn’t ask about knowledge of other New World pinots.
Two wineries rose to the top: Fox Run and Dr. Konstantin Frank. Interestingly, one of the journalists noted that, of the wineries we visited, these two had the cleanest winemaking and bottling operations. The assessment, I believe, was in actuality based on a number of other factors — obviously the quality of the wines, but also the well-situated and sophisticated tasting rooms, and perhaps the engagement of the owners in our tours and discussions. Favorites included the chardonnays and rieslings at Fox Run and the rieslings and rkatsiteli at Dr. Frank’s.
Of the wines that we tasted, but did not visit the winery, two wines were referenced as being “very good,” several times, by several people. Interestingly, they were from the same winery, enjoyed on two different nights. The first was a 2010 Lamoreaux Landing Wine Cellars Chardonnay. One visitor was actually reluctant to try it, stating that he was always disappointed in American chardonnay wines, his palate accustomed to white Burgundy. With a bit of prompting (coupled by the fact that I don’t think he liked riesling), he tried the chardonnay — and was pleasantly surprised. Oak was present, but it was subtle, old and well-integrated. Again, the acid backbone of wines from cool climate regions gave the wine a light-footed vibrancy that I believe many American chardonnays often lack.
The second was the 2007 Lamoreaux Landing 76 West, an estate-bottled Meritage-style blend. This wine was ripe but not jammy, herbal but not green, assertive without being overbearing, and most impressive to me, could stand alone but played very well with ribeye (dinner Saturday night). It was by far the most sophisticated of the reds that we tried, at a very pleasant 12.8% alcohol.
Another unexpected surprise: 2009 Zugibe Late Harvest Riesling. Our server told us an interesting story about the wine: It was an unplanned but fortituously vinified wine. The fruit hung on a winegrower’s vines with no home. Zugibe was offered the grapes, decided to give them a try, and ended up making an award-winning late harvest Riesling. It’s an untraditional after-dinner choice (the viscosity of the wine is unlike a desert wine, but it is sufficiently sweet and apricot-y) and is a steal at $36 for a 750mL on Red Newt Bistro’s restaurant wine list.
For the European visitors, the American market is of utmost interest — clearly a lot of wine is getting consumed here, much of it from Europe. EU wine consumption fell by almost one million hectolitres in 2011, while consumption rose in the United States by 0.9 million hectolitres in 2011 compared with 2010 to reach 28.5 million hectoliters, according to the Organisation Internationale de la Vigne et du Vin (OIV). Thus, exports are becoming increasingly important to the European wine industry.
Other interesting tidbits:
Our distribution system is so complex and varied from state-to-state that the international visitors had many, many questions. They were very interested in the grocery store versus wine shop dynamic in New York State.
The lakes impressed with their beauty and fall foliage; one French journalist declared that he would retire to the region to make wine.
There’s a deep interest in viticulture, microclimates, terroir and winemaking techniques.
There was a bit of surprise – perhaps even shock – that chapetalization (the adding of sugar) is allowed – many regions in Europe forbid it.
But the key takeaway, through the eyes of an international visitor and my own, is the remarkable youth of the region, and how much opportunity there is for wineries and winemakers to work together to advance the quality of the region. With that comes the international prestige that the Finger Lakes so ardently seeks.









very interesting! there is nothing better than seeing your region through the eyes of an outsider, even better through those of someone from another part of the world.
Thanks Regan!
Yay, very honored to hear the nice review! It’s amazing to me that the server had a backround story for this wine, and they were only slightly off. The fruit for this wine was our own estate Riesling. But we got to a point that we had no tank space available to accomodate the extra grapes…with Fred working around the clock to get things moving, and with noting that the grapes were still hanging fine, we were finally able to bring them in before it was too late! It was an incredible victory!!
Very cool story – thanks for giving us the expanded version. A victory indeed! I’ll be eager to try some of your other wines in the near future.
Next time you lead a trip of that sort, please look us up, we would love to show you what we are up to at Forge Cellars.
RR
Thanks Rick, I will definitely check out Forge next time I’m in the area.
Excellent piece. I love the premise and the fair reporting. As a former NYer, now in Texas, I share your pride in the leaps and bounds that both states are making in the quality of the wines. I visited Lamoreaux Landing in January and was thrilled to see what they were doing, and at reasonable price points. I have participated in two Riesling tastings with a total of 16 wines. Some I really loved. I think Dr, Frank’s or Ravine’s Old World style would stand out for the dry Rieslings. An exciting time in a beautiful area. I would love to bring that group down here for some tastings. Unfortunately, I have no budget to do so. Again, great piece!
Thanks so much!
Nice work, Katie. Unfortunately, the celebration of Chardonnay does not speak well for the journalists, just as the region’s celebration of some sweet hybrids maligns itself. And sorry, but the notion that nine grams of residual sugar is “not dry enough” is utterly lacking in understanding in what Riesling is about. But everyone has their own preference. I’d ask those journalists just how dry they think Mosel Kabinetts, or Spats, should be… It’s also a bit telling that the journalists were wooed by tasting rooms and facilities, linking the pleasing visuals of the buildings to the wines. That kind of simplicity would have the world ignoring Henri Bonneau or Kim Engle or Mayacamas or… I could go on.
Nice to continue to bring new writers to the region, of course. The danger for the Finger Lakes is developing a house palate, and that problem persists today.
Evan,
A comment: I don’t think that the journalists were “wooed” by the tasting rooms. My observation was intended to speak to the myriad influences that can shape opinions about producers and their wines. And that varies by people, might I add – Bloomer Creek (Kim Engle) is one of my most favorite tasting rooms in the area – the old farmhouse charm and decor suits the creative wines and winemaking philosophy he’s pursuing.
Thanks for the thought-provoking questions.
It pains me to agree with Evan too much — but that they called out chardonnay was surprising.
I mean, if the pinots were underwhelming with Burgundy as the reference, I’m surprised the same didn’t happen with chardonnay and Burgundy.
Then again, Evan and I are the founders, co-presidents and perhaps only members of the “Who really cares about New York chardonnay, anyway?” club.
Not the only members…
Would you like to be an officer?
I found so many things about this post a bit strange it’s hard to know where to begin.
I am surprised to learn anyone, especially “wine writers” could be “shocked” about Chaptalization and disappointed by .9 RS in well made, nicely balanced Dry Riesling? Or so dismissive about our FL Pinot Noir, based on what? We’re supposed to be just like Burgandy? Are they just as surprised about dealcoholized wines, Tartaric acid additions or Brett and TBA ?
Journalists writing for Wine Enthusiast Magazine, Wine Spectator and the NY Times have found many red and white wines to enjoy here in the Finger Lakes. It seems to me that these folks were much more than somewhat skeptical about Finger Lakes wines. I would like to think real journalists would come here with open minds not agendas.
Not really that surprised about the chard thing. It is the Chili’s of grape varietals, afterall. Can I be VP of this group?
By executive order, I make it so.
This Chardonnay bashing party is getting silly you guys – time to roll out a Dauvissat and hit you over the palate with it? Chardonnay represents the single greatest OPPORTUNITY for the FLX winemaker to make an impressive white wine (save Riesling.) What’s too bad is the excessive yields, thin fruits, thin textures, and the sheer lack of forethought of style. Everyone knows what kind of Riesling(s) they want to make, so why are they so scatter-shot with their Chards?
It’s true, these so-called journalists offered (some) ridiculous commentary – usually one must conduct insufferable “in-store tastings” with consumers to get comments like this. The problem is that these writers can’t separate the business from creme. Does Lafarge make Passetoutgrains? Does Mouton make Cadet? Well, we make sweet stuff – so there…
Alternatively, had a formal sit-down tasting of two dozen the finest and the best examples been engineered for them they would have come away from the region two different ways: 1) assured it is world-class, 2) not understanding a thing about it.
Would you believe me if i said this chard bashing was just a ploy to convince the general public, and in turn mass producers, to move on; thus paving the way for a Chardonnay renaissance? To save Chardonnay, we must kill Chardonnay.
That WOULD make sense to me…
This might be brilliant. Cut off the leg to save the body, that kind of thing. Do it.
Can we try it first with Traminette?
If we did this with traminette, the goal would not be to save it.
Why are we talking about Traminette again?
Jim,
I actually don’t think we’re that far apart on this issue. I know you love white Burg…I like it to (yes, seriously…though I prefer Chablis). But the fact is, MOST of the chardonnay being made in New York (and you could expand this argument beyond our borders) is not distinctive, doesn’t express anything unique and is just ‘whelming’
Why be happy with mediocrity in chardonnay when you can make killer riesling, gewurzt, etc?
I’m not happy with mediocrity. I’m just wondering why the great Chardonnay isn’t getting made? It’s not like it can’t be made – it just isn’t…
I cannot agree with this chardonnay bashing. I would argue that the Finger Lakes, and for that matter Long Island, is one of the very few wine regions in North America should be grown. It is quite simply too warm on the West coast to produce balanced wines from this grape variety.
It does not seem like a very inspired itinerary to say the least; perhaps something like you would expect to come out of the NYW&GF office!
Hey I love a ton of the Rieslings in this area. I am a Clevelander who travels up to the Finger Lakes twice a year. You should all be PROUD! Ravines, Dr Konstantin Frank, Heron Hill, Fox Run, Anthony Road, Red Tail Ridge, Hermann Wiemer, Glenora, Lakewood. Red Newt, Lamoreaux Landing, Sheldrake Point and plenty of others.
For those that would like to know, both the FLX and LI wines are doing well in the UK.
We have wines placed in over 25 Michelin Starred restaurants.
Plus there is more growing interest within the press, including big articles in The World of Fine Wine, The Drinks Business and Harpers amongst other.
Private Client sales are doing well, plus a few independent merchants are selling selected lines.
Get in touch if you’d like more info!
W