A Change of Heart About Pinot, and Another Sign that the Finger Lakes is Rallying Around This Red
Photo courtesy of Sheldrake Point Vineyards
Bob Madill, general manager at Sheldrake Point Vineyards, does not necessarily agree with the way I describe his feelings on pinot, but I’ll stand by it: I think he’s had a change of heart. The question is, why?
Back in 2008, Madill and I had a discussion about pinot and how it grows in the Finger Lakes. I don’t have detailed notes of that conversation, but I can clearly remember Bob’s skepticism about pinot’s future here. He’s a Burgundy lover, and someone who appreciates the subtleties and complexities of pinot noir. Could you really expect to make complex, nuanced pinot, he asked, in a climate that was often so wet during harvest?
After all, wetness brings disease pressure, and pinot noir is one of the thinnest-skinned of grape varieties. It’s extremely susceptible to rot and affliction. Madill was stressing the point that climate data shows the Finger Lakes as one of the wettest wine regions in the world during harvest — on average. To state the obvious, this is variable, but he was looking at climate data that looked at history.
Fast forward to 2013 and Madill is working very hard on his own, small-lot pinot noir. Lenn Thompson reviewed the first vintage of Sheldrake Point’s BLK 3 Pinot Noir earlier this week.
“I’m fussy,” Madill told me, although to anyone who’s met him, he needn’t state the obvious. He is famously fussy and carrying high standards. “I can baby the vines. I can tend to them very specifically,” he continued, and then added a key point: “I don’t need great commercial success with this particular wine. There’s not much of it.”
Madill was not saying that pinot noir can never be financially viable in the Finger Lakes; however, he was indeed saying that it is a fool’s errand for all but the most dedicated growers and winemakers.
“I would think that only a handful of people are doing it right now,” he says. “Six, maybe eight or so. There’s a character and quality of pinot that we’re just barely moving toward in the Finger Lakes.”
When I ask him why he’s had a change of heart, he says, “I don’t know that it’s a change of heart. It’s really about coming to terms that it can be done–it really can–but it requires a great deal of work.”
Fair enough. There is not a single moment when a wine region makes a declaration about which grape or another becomes a standard bearer, but Madill’s conversion must be seen as evidence that such an occurrence is in process. Today there are several wineries producing only pinot noir and riesling (Heart & Hands, Forge, Bellwether), and a small-but-growing group that is focused on pinot in the way that Madill describes. Ravines, Damiani, Red Tail Ridge, and others — this is not a complete list, and it’s fair to say other wineries could merit a spot, but the list is nonetheless rather compact.
Beyond Lenn’s review of the 2009 BLK 3, Madill shared his thoughts on what’s to come. He’s at his most entertaining when he’s blunt, which is most of the time, and he’s blunt about the 2010 vintage. In short, he thinks it’s not nearly as good a red wine vintage as many people were hoping. (And by the way, recent tastings indicate the 2010 Finger Lakes reds are, at minimum, much lighter than other celebrated vintages, including 2007 and 2012.)
“There just wasn’t nearly as much ripening in 2010 as some people seem to say,” Madill says. “It’s a light year. Our pinot is light. That’s okay, because it reflects the vintage.”
He is very high on 2011, a year that brought great challenge but also great potential. And the early returns on 2012 are almost puzzling, because unlike 2010, there was no question about ripening.
“We had water in 2012,” he says. “Just enough, and not too much, and ripening just continued right along. And this pinot is burly! I like pinot that’s charming and aromatic. The 2012 is gutsy. I don’t really know what to make of it. It’s almost perfect, but then it’s almost too much of a good thing. I’m very curious to see where it goes. It’s a structured wine.”
It’s really about coming to terms that it can be done — it really can — but it requires a great of work. You’re better off not doing it at all if you’re not prepared for the challenge.”
So what’s next for pinot in the Finger Lakes? Madill would like to see the number of serious producers grow; he echoes Tom Higgins of Heart & Hands in that regard. And he says winemakers must accept that pinot doesn’t create a buzz as easily as other varieties, particularly in wine competitions. “These wines are easy to take for granted,” he says. “I’ve had these wines in wine competitions and some judges say, ‘It’s wimpy!’ But of course that’s missing the point. Some people don’t know what the fuss is about, but great pinot is subtle.”
And he’d like to see continued cooperation between the Finger Lakes and his home of Ontario, Canada. “There’s more serious pinot in Ontario than there is here, by a longshot,” he says. “At one point the two regions seemed to have more communication, and then it disappeared for a while, but now it seems to be coming back.”
Still, I can’t get Bob to admit he was wrong. He says he’s simply open-minded but stubborn about high standards. Other red varieties have shown success without breaking out; cabernet franc and blaufrankisch come to mind. Pinot is the red grape of the moment, and it’s an open question as to how long that moment will last. Bob Madill won’t have to admit he was wrong if, years from now, his wines do all the talking for him.













Along with the dedicated efforts of Heart and Hands and Forge Cellars, Mr. Madill’s pinot project has resulted some seriously good wine. We have tried the pinot produced by each and without exception all of them stand up to pinot produced around the world. My question: Will/should the Finger Lakes and other appellations in North America go the way of France and dial in on 1-2 varietals within the region?
I’ve been following Pinot in the FL for some time now and was puzzled by the frankly poor versions that were coming out of Sheldrake. I know they had high hopes for the grape when they started and I thought it would just be a matter of time, but not much has improved over the years, IMO. Maybe they just don’t have the site or mindset? This goes double for their Gamay, BTW!
There is some seriously interesting PN coming from the some of the other producers mentioned above, and other places make good versions from time to time. It took a long time for some new world places (e.g. Oregon) to figure out this grape and I don’t expect the FL to be any different. The parameter space to be explored is huge. Even Dr. Frank has made some very good pinot over the years (the 1989 was very fine) and even Hermann Wiemer is getting the hang (I love their 2008). Let’s hope Sheldrake can keep up.
I strongly believe it is more important for growers and winemakers to be truly committed to Pinot Noir than it would be to have a larger number of producers. Making Pinot Noir is not for everyone; not in the Finger Lakes, not in Ontario nor in California.
What is required is making a wine that reflects both our region and the vintage. Pinot Noir has by now acquired a dual identity: cool climate and warm climate. If restaurants, retailers and consumers too readily focus on the “light” aspect of Pinot Noir and not its balance and nuances, then you conclude that they simply do not understand and appreciate the cool climate style of Pinot Noir. However, there are places all over the US where our style of Pinot Noir is appreciated. I have had a chance to see that this week in San Francisco and Sacramento.
It requires a little bit of courage, knowledge and stamina for someone to appreciate and confess appreciating a “lighter ” style Pinot Noir as opposed to a dark, Syrah style wine going by the name of Pinot Noir. Assuming that the wine has all the necessary elements( low yield, careful fruit handling, careful extraction and use of oak), then this lack of appreciation, when it occurs, is a reflection of the consumer, not the wine. Cool climate Pinot Noir is simply not for everyone, but the very few wine regions around the World capable of producing it should feel blessed.
Morten: I strongly agree with your comments. My model for sucessful Pinot Noir would be Burgundy, and that from producers who are not chasing Parker points with oak, extraction, etc. Central Coast PN from California has its following, but there is no way anyone in a climate like the FL should be trying to emulate these wines.
Having said that, I’m tired of being presented with a thin, underripe and pale wine with absolutely no charm or merit and being told that this is the nature of PN (or Gamay, for that matter). This has happened all too often in FL tasting rooms over the years, but with the increasing number of well made wines as examples (Ravines being one), I’m hoping it is a thing of the past.
Evan, you assume Madill must believe in Pinot in order to grow/make it. He’s in the business of selling wine and, quality aside, if there’s a market for a wine people will produce it regardless of whether they like it or not.
there are much easier ways to make a buck than being obsessed with pinot.
Yep – what Ian said. You don’t grow Pinot for the money…
As one of the founders of what I think was called the Finger Lakes Pinot Noir Alliance, years ago, I am quite sure that Bob is interested in producing high quality Pinot Noir with his BLK 3 label. It is a very nice wine that took a lot of skill and effort to produce.
The wine business is about much more than just money for those producers who are serious about offering quality Pinot Noir, among other varieties, in the Finger Lakes. As for Pinot Noir, we are seeing a serious effort by a few wineries to do a good job with this challenging variety. Each in their own particular style. And for those producers, I think things are going well.
Evan, thanks for an interesting and timely article. I hope quality-driven producers do rally around Pinot. While I can relate to Cyclist’s comments regarding the aspects of some Pinot presented in FL tasting rooms, I’ve been extremely excited about the Pinot produced from Forge and Ravines. As a consumer with a very limited wine budget, I have to plan my annual purchases of FL wines during my 4 to 5 yearly visits. Ten years ago, I would have never considered allocating a portion of my budget to FL Pinot. Now, I’m spending 30% on Pinot and will gladly support quality-driven producers. I’m totally excited about Forge’s upcoming release of their Les Allies Pinot.
On another note, I’m not interested in comparing a FL Pinot against a Burgundy, Cali, Oregon, or anywhere else in an attempt to identifying its “standing” within the crowd. I do understand that many folks enjoy that type of analysis. For me, the experience and enjoyment isn’t just about solely drinking the wine. Its about drinking the wine within the context of an understanding of the vision and work that went into producing a FL Pinot. The difficulty of producing quality FL Pinot is all the more reason to get excited about the quality some of these wines. These are truly hand-crafted wines. Please producers work hard and rally on!